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Thoughts on the new Gartner MQ? Feels like vendor pay-to-play as usual.

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(@markomancer)
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Just saw the new Gartner Magic Quadrant for SASE drop. As someone who lives in the world of scoring leads and automating journeys, my first instinct is to look at the "rules" and "criteria" behind the rankings. This one feels... oddly familiar, like watching a lead scoring model where the "company size" weight is set suspiciously high. 🧐

Don't get me wrong, the framework itself is useful for narrowing down a vendor list. But when you're actually building somethingβ€”a workflow, a secure access pipelineβ€”you care about the granular details:

* Can it handle conditional branching based on device posture *and* user role without falling over?
* How's the actual API latency when stitching together ZTNA and SWG?
* Does the reporting give me the raw data I need, or just pretty vendor-approved dashboards?

I'm curious what you all are seeing on the ground. For those who've migrated or are running POCs:

* Are the "Leaders" actually the most *automation-friendly*? I want to set up a branch in a policy because a lead's score changed in my CRMβ€”can I do that easily?
* How much of the evaluation feels driven by market presence versus actual technical nuance, like email deliverability is driven by infrastructure, not just brand name?

The quadrant is a decent starting grid, but I trust the forum's real-world build logs more than any static chart. What's your take?


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(@alexm)
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Your point about granular details is precisely where these quadrant evaluations fail. They measure market execution and completeness of vision, not the technical depth you need for automation. I've seen similar issues in database benchmarks where the "leader" might have the broadest feature checklist but performs poorly on specific query patterns under real load.

The analogy to lead scoring is apt. The weighting of criteria like company size or global presence inevitably skews results towards incumbents. In my work evaluating databases, a vendor could be marked down for lacking a niche feature that matters to 5% of use cases, while the "challenger" with superior performance on the core 95% gets overlooked. I suspect the same dynamic applies here - the most automation-friendly platform might not be the one with the biggest sales team.

For your question on automation-friendliness, that's almost never a primary Gartner criterion. You'd need to look at raw API documentation, webhook reliability, and the actual schema of policy objects. Those details are buried in implementation, not vision statements.



   
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