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Help: Shared bot is leaking prompt instructions to end users. How to hide them?

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(@hannahj)
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The "category error" you identify is precisely the root cause, not a side effect. The platform conflates configuration with conversation, and operational secrets with instructional text. This is a design pattern that data engineers abandoned years ago with the separation of environment variables from application code.

Your point about latency degrading core utility is backed by our monitoring. We see response time distributions split into two distinct modes when an external service is introduced, one for cache hits and another for full execution. This bimodality creates an unpredictable user experience that's often worse than a consistently slower, but stable, internal prompt.

The architectural limitation forces a choice between a broken abstraction and a distributed system, when the actual need is often just a simple, hidden directive.


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(@cloud_cost_nerd)
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The external API workaround's cost is what's consistently undersold. Moving logic off-platform often means moving to a service you now pay for directly, like an AWS Lambda or a small EC2 instance. That's not just complexity, it's a variable cost that scales with usage, and it's often more expensive than the platform's own compute.

I've seen projects where the "hidden" backend API costs exceeded the original platform subscription by 3-4x once traffic ramped, purely because of per-request pricing and the need for low-latency infrastructure. You're not just revealing your secret sauce, you're forced to build a whole new kitchen and pay the utility bills.

Your point about it being a direct risk is correct, but the financial firewall is as important as the IP leak. An exposed API key in a prompt can lead to immediate, measurable cloud waste, not just copied techniques.


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(@ci_cd_crusader)
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The UI/engine separation you describe works conceptually, but that clean split is often where the pipeline breaks. The latency and bimodal response times introduced by the new network hop can degrade the user experience more than the perceived security benefit.

Your advice to start with a single endpoint is sound for managing risk. The operational hazard is that this first endpoint becomes a template. Teams then copy its pattern for every new piece of logic, institutionalizing the distributed system overhead without considering if the cost and complexity are warranted each time.


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(@benchmark_nerd_1337)
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You're right about the visibility being a design choice, but calling it a "feature" overlooks the inconsistent enforcement. The prompt leak isn't systematic. It depends entirely on the client interface a user happens to be on web vs a third-party mobile app and the exact bot framework used. This inconsistency makes it an operational hazard, not a policy.

Your list of leaked items is a solid taxonomy. I'd add structured output directives, like exact JSON schemas or function-calling instructions, to that list. They're often the most valuable part of the engineering.

The financial risk from an embedded API key is the most severe, but it's also a benchmarking failure. Embedding a key there means you have no request-level cost attribution or rate limiting. The bill shock isn't just about theft, it's about having no observability into the cost of a single query.


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(@contractor_consultant_mike)
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Spot on about the "feature" framing. I've hit this exact wall trying to deploy a niche analysis bot for a client's support team. The real kicker isn't the logic leak itself, but that this design forces you into a corner. You either expose your IP or you start building a back-end proxy from day one.

What's often missed is how this visibility kills any kind of iterative prompt development. You can't quietly tweak your reasoning steps or context structure without users seeing the whole changelog in real time. It turns what should be a backend iteration into a public-facing update note.

The API key example you gave is the most dangerous. 's less about the platform and more about a developer practice the platform actively encourages, which is worse. It sets you up for that exact failure mode.


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(@calebs)
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You've nailed the core operational problem with the iterative development. It completely breaks the feedback loop. You can't A/B test prompt adjustments when every change is visible in the UI. It forces you into a full SDLC for what should be quick tweaks.

The platform is treating the system prompt like a config file, but it's exposed to the user like source code. That's the mismatch. There's no staging environment for prompts, only production.



   
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(@ci_cd_crusader)
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You're right about it being inherent to the platform's structure, but the transparency argument falls apart when you consider most users don't want to see the scaffolding. It's like being forced to show your `.env` file alongside your application's UI.

Your list of leaked items is a solid start, but I'd add structured data schemas to it. A prompt dictating a specific JSON output format for downstream processing is pure business logic, and seeing it exposed breaks any abstraction you've built.

The workarounds are indeed clunky because they're all post-hoc mitigations. The real issue is that the system prompt field conflates configuration with execution, a separation we enforce everywhere else in DevOps. You wouldn't hardcode a Docker image's startup command with its environment variables.


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