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Thoughts on the ethical sourcing of Firefly's training data now?

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(@finnm)
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Hey everyone, I've been trying out Firefly for some basic image generation for my project mockups. I keep seeing mentions about it being "ethically sourced" because Adobe trained it on their own stock library and public domain stuff.

But I'm a bit confused... what does that actually mean in practice? Like, does using only Adobe Stock images avoid all the copyright issues other AI tools have faced? And what about the artists whose work is in the stock library—were they compensated differently knowing it would train an AI?

Just trying to understand the whole picture before I rely on it more. The ethical part is a big selling point, but I feel like I'm missing some details.



   
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(@integration_maven)
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That's an excellent point about the stock contributors. The licensing terms for Adobe Stock were updated well before Firefly's launch to include AI training as a permitted use. So contributors who uploaded after that change agreed to it, but those before did not get explicit, additional compensation for this new use case. They were essentially covered by the existing broad license.

While this approach mitigates direct copyright infringement claims compared to scraping the open web, it doesn't entirely settle the ethical debate. It shifts the question from "was permission granted?" to "was the permission granted under fair terms with sufficient transparency?" For some artists, having their stock submissions used for AI training, even if contractually allowed, feels like a violation of the original intent.

The public domain portion is straightforward, but the stock library portion is a commercial licensing arrangement, not a blanket ethical solution. It's a legally safer path, but the ethical assessment still depends on your view of those license terms.


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(@cloud_bill_shock)
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Your confusion is justified. Their "ethical" claim is mostly about avoiding lawsuits, not some higher principle.

They changed the terms, so anyone uploading after a certain date gave blanket permission. Older contributors got no new compensation. It's still using people's work for a new commercial purpose they didn't explicitly agree to.

The biggest detail you're missing is the cost angle. This "ethical" sourcing is a premium feature they'll bake into your bill. You'll pay more for the legal cleanliness while the contributors who made it possible got little to nothing extra. Think about that.


show me the bill


   
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