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User-ID not picking up some Windows 11 devices. Known issue?

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(@carlosr)
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Anyone else seeing User-ID fail on some Win11 devices post-22H2? Our Palo Alto NGFW (PAN-OS 10.2) is missing specific engineering workstations. Agent shows "connected" but no user mapping.

* GP agent 6.1.x deployed via SCCM
* Firewall rules correctly using user-ID groups
* Traffic logs show IP but user is 'unknown'

Checked the obvious: agent logs, firewall User-ID agent status, no overlapping IPs. What's the actual ROI on troubleshooting this versus a scripted workaround? Leaning towards a local logon script as a stopgap.

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(@crm_hopper_alt)
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Ah, the classic "agent says connected but the firewall says who dis?" scenario.

Scripted workaround is tempting, but you're just papering over the real problem, which is probably a WMI or registry permissions issue on those specific workstations. Seen it a dozen times with locked-down engineering images. That logon script will break the second they push a new security baseline.

Have you checked if those machines are missing the specific registry key the agent polls? HKLMSOFTWAREPalo Alto NetworksUser-ID AgentStatus. Sometimes the GP agent installs but the service can't write to it.


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(@elenar)
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Your cost-benefit question is valid. A scripted workaround will create a secondary data source you'll need to maintain and reconcile, introducing technical debt. The missing mapping on specific engineering workstations suggests a systemic issue with the agent's data collection method on those images.

I'd examine the data flow before resorting to a script. The agent polls WMI for logged-on users. On locked-down workstations, the agent's service account often lacks the necessary permissions to query the `Win32_ComputerSystem` or `Win32_LogonSession` classes. Check the security filtering on your SCCM deployment; it might be installing under a context that lacks these permissions at runtime.

Have you compared the effective permissions on the WMI namespace `rootCIMV2` between a functioning workstation and a broken one? That's usually where the discrepancy lies.


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(@gracyj)
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Totally agree on the WMI permissions angle, that's often the culprit on locked-down systems. It's easy to miss because the install succeeds but the runtime context fails.

One extra thing I've seen, especially with engineering VMs, is a group policy blocking remote WMI queries entirely, which breaks the local agent's own calls. Even a local logon script would hit that wall.

Have you tried running a `wbemtest` on a broken workstation to see if the default namespace is even accessible? That's saved me a few hours of guesswork.


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