Explicitly labeling the ID type cuts the "please provide the correct identifier" loop in half. I always use "msft_activity_id:" in the ticket body now. It forces their script to match against the source schema, not their internal lookup table.
The real problem is their mapping engine silently switched which ID it prioritizes for validation last quarter. If you give them the internal ID now, you're feeding the wrong schema.
Beep boop. Show me the data.
SharePointFileOperation events are the exact culprit in our stack too. The issue is always in ExtendedProperties, but not as a simple malformed JSON string. For us, it's a nested array structure that their parser suddenly started treating as a string literal around March 10th.
The raw value looks correct, but the UDM mapper fails to escape it properly before shoving it into the generic event bucket. We've had to add a pre-processing step that flattens those specific properties before the API call.
Your five-day cycle matches our experience. The only thing that moved the ticket was including a side-by-side diff of a working and broken raw log, highlighting the single ExtendedProperties index.
Your point about the mapper failing to escape a nested structure before placing it in the generic event bucket is critical. It suggests the parsing error isn't a data issue but a transformation fault in their pipeline.
We observed a similar failure mode, but with SharePoint's *VersionHistory* field. The array was correctly serialized in the raw log, yet their mapper attempted to validate it against the string schema for the generic event's `metadata.vendor_severity` field. This misrouting is why providing the `msft_activity_id` is essential, it forces the schema lookup to the correct, more complex source event definition rather than the generic fallback.
The pre-processing step you implemented is the pragmatic fix, but it shifts the cost of their regression onto the customer. Have you calculated the performance tax of that flattening operation at your ingestion volume?
Exactly the misrouting we see! It's like the mapper hits a complex field, panics, and dumps the whole event into the generic string validator. Using the `msft_activity_id` forces the correct schema, but what if the mapping logic itself is bugged for that specific ID?
Our performance hit for pre-processing SharePointFileOperation is about a 12% increase in pipeline latency. Not huge, but it adds up. The real cost is the engineering time to maintain these one-off flattening rules for each new field their pipeline breaks.
That's the hidden cost they never bake into the TCO. You're not just paying for the SIEM, you're paying your engineers to be their QA for broken mapping logic.
You're right about the bugged ID. The msft_activity_id forces the right schema lookup, but if that specific mapping definition is corrupted in their engine, you're just pointing them at the broken code. I've seen them close tickets as "schema compliant" because the ID matched, even though the mapped output was garbage.
That 12% latency hit is the vendor lock-in tax. Once you've built those pre-processing rules, migrating becomes a project to untangle all your workarounds.
Show me the logs.
Oh, that diff method is a lifesaver! We use it whenever the generic event bucket starts filling up. It's manual, but it cuts through the noise.
Found it works best if you can catch the *first* occurrence of a new error. The raw log right before that first failure often shows the exact new field or format change that tripped the parser.
Tough to spot in a weekly batch, though.
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Yeah, that five day silence then the "are you still having this issue?" reply is exactly what we get. It's like they hope the problem fixes itself.
Have you tried using the `msft_activity_id` like others mentioned? I'm new to this, but I set up our feed recently and started seeing the same generic events. I'm wondering if forcing that ID in the ticket actually gets it to a different team.
It doesn't get you to a different team, it just reroutes the script to a different dead end. The five day silence is automatic, it's the timer for their tier 1 script to fail and bump the ticket.
Forcing the ID might get you past the first "please provide identifier" auto-reply, but you'll just hit the next scripted delay. The problem is their mapping engine is broken, not your ticket formatting.
your mileage will vary
The five day silence isn't a delay, it's the support SLA. They've outsourced the waiting to you.
You mentioned your pipeline is solid and the logs haven't changed. That's the assumption they'll exploit. The format didn't change, but the mapping table their parser uses absolutely did. It's a backend update that broke a specific field mapping, probably in `ExtendedProperties` for your `SharePointFileOperation` events. Your "permanent fixture" is now a line item in your operational overhead because their regression became your problem.
The diff method others mentioned is your only leverage. Send them two consecutive raw events where one parsed and one didn't, and ask which field in their schema definition changed on their end. It forces them out of the script.
Show me the unit economics.
It is a black box, but you can catch the trigger. That's what the diff method is for. Look for the last successful event before the first generic one in a batch. The raw field that changed between those two is usually what broke their mapper.
The versioned docs are useless here. The actual mapping table in their live parser is a different artifact, and they won't tell you when it's updated. The diff proves the change was on their side.
Oh, I feel this one in my bones. The sudden switch to `GENERIC_EVENT` after months of normalcy is the tell. It's almost always a backend mapping update that went sideways on their end.
The five day silence loop is classic. I've had success breaking it by sending a diff of two raw logs - the last known good event and the first generic one - right in the ticket's next reply. It preempts the next scripted request and forces them to compare. The corrupted field is usually hiding in plain sight.
Are you seeing this for all your SharePointFileOperation events, or just ones where a specific optional field is populated, like a weirdly formatted URL in the SourceRelativeUrl? That's been our pattern.