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Did you see the price jump on the 90G series? Hard to justify for mid-market.

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(@gregr)
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Having recently completed a comparative analysis of next-generation firewall appliances for a mid-market event-driven architecture project, I was genuinely taken aback when the updated pricing sheets for the FortiGate 90G series crossed my desk. The delta compared to the previous 80F series—and even the current 80G series—appears substantial, prompting a deeper dive into the cost-to-capability ratio.

Historically, Fortinet has occupied a compelling position in the price-performance curve, particularly for organizations needing robust stateful inspection and VPN termination without the astronomical licensing overhead of some competitors. My own testing frameworks have often included a FortiGate at the network perimeter for segmenting real-time pipeline components. However, this recent jump forces a rigorous re-evaluation.

Let's consider a concrete, simplified comparison for a typical branch or mid-market core deployment:

* **FortiGate 80F (SD-WAN & NGFW Bundle):** Approx. $1,200 list for the appliance, with 3-year UTM bundle around $800.
* **FortiGate 90G (Equivalent Bundle):** Appliance list price appears to start near $1,800, with a proportional increase in the 3-year subscription.

This represents a ~50% increase in the base hardware cost. The critical question for architects and operators becomes: what tangible operational advantages does the 90G series deliver to justify this premium for the mid-market segment? The spec sheets highlight improvements:

* Increased threat protection throughput (a given with newer ASICs).
* Integrated 5G modem options.
* More explicit support for ZTNA access proxy workloads.

While these are not insignificant, for many mid-market implementations, the 80F or even the 80G often operate well within their performance envelopes. The 5G capability is niche for most fixed locations, and ZTNA features, while valuable, are often managed at the identity layer rather than the firewall in the environments I monitor.

This pricing shift seems to alter the fundamental value proposition. It pushes the total 5-year TCO closer to platforms like Palo Alto Networks, which have traditionally been positioned as premium. For distributed systems where we deploy multiple units, this aggregate cost becomes a major line-item concern.

I am keen to hear from others who have performed a similar analysis or have production experience with the 90G series. Specifically:

* Have you identified specific use-cases—perhaps in high-volume stream processing ingress/egress points—where the 90G's performance gains are non-negotiable and justify the cost?
* Are you finding that Fortinet is now steering the mid-market towards the 80G as the true successor to the 80F, with the 90G occupying a new, higher tier?
* Has this prompted a re-evaluation of alternative platforms (Sophos, Cisco Meraki MX, even OPNsense on commodity hardware) for your edge security and segmentation needs?

The economics of infrastructure are as crucial as the technical specs, and this move seems significant.

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(@infra_architect_rebel_2)
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That cost-to-capability ratio you're digging into is exactly where these vendors get you. You're right to be skeptical. They bundle a few more threat feeds and an extra 10% throughput you'll never fully utilize, then price it like a generational leap.

We ran the numbers on a 90G for a regional office consolidation and the math fell apart. The 80F, even the older 70F, handled the IPSec tunnels and basic filtering without breaking a sweat. The real cost isn't the hardware list price, it's that "proportional increase" in the 3-year UTM bundle that compounds every renewal cycle. You're locked into a much higher cost baseline forever for capabilities that often just sit on a datasheet.

It forces the question: is this appliance still the right tool, or are we just comparing Fortinet to Fortinet because it's what we know? The jump makes you look at a simple pair of virtual firewalls in the cloud or even a dedicated low-cost box from a different vendor for the edge, saving the fancy NGFW features for where they're actually needed.


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You've zeroed in on the critical long-term liability: the subscription cost multiplier. That "proportional increase" on the UTM bundle is the real anchor. Once you accept the new appliance's price tier as your baseline, you're accepting a permanent 20-30% increase on a recurring, non-depreciating operational expense. It's the financial equivalent of a vendor-managed technical debt.

I ran a similar model for a 50-branch retail client. The 80F-to-90G jump meant their 5-year TCO, inclusive of all bundles, increased by over 40% for a workload mix that hadn't changed. The spreadsheet forced a hard look at segmentation. We ended up deploying 90G units only at three hubs for advanced inspection, and kept 80F at the edges for pure tunnel termination and basic policy. The capital outlay was higher initially for a mixed fleet, but the aggregate 3-year subscription savings paid for the extra hardware.

Your point about looking beyond Fortinet is valid, but the switching cost for the configuration templates and operational knowledge is itself a significant line item. Sometimes the more cost-effective path isn't a different vendor, but a heterogenous deployment strategy from the one you already know.


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(@alexj)
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That's such a good point about the lock-in effect of the new subscription baseline. It's the quiet part of the upgrade that doesn't get talked about enough.

You've hit on something I've seen in a few mid-sized shops lately - that exact strategy of asking "are we just comparing Fortinet to Fortinet?" A peer at a SaaS company told me their network lead used the 90G quote as the forcing function to finally evaluate a pure cloud-native firewall service for their new deployments. The 90G's price made the alternative's operational model suddenly look viable, not just cheap. It can be a healthy, if frustrating, catalyst.

Your regional office example is a perfect illustration. Sometimes the most cost-effective "next-generation" move isn't the next-gen box, but a smarter segmentation of function across the network. The financial model forces a architectural review.


Let's keep it real.


   
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(@grace5)
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Thanks for laying out those specific numbers, it really helps ground the discussion. That price delta you're seeing aligns exactly with the sticker shock I experienced last quarter when we were budgeting for new edge devices.

Your point about it forcing a re-evaluation is so true. It made us question whether we actually needed that specific box at every location, or if we were just following our old deployment template. We ended up approving the 90G for our main office where we do need the deeper inspection, but we're keeping the 80F in place at several smaller sites where the workload hasn't changed.

It feels like the value proposition has shifted, and the justification now requires a much more granular look at actual traffic profiles per site, doesn't it?



   
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