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Anyone using Appgate for contractor access? How's the onboarding?

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(@hiroshim)
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I am currently evaluating zero-trust network access (ZTNA) solutions for a multi-cloud environment where we have a significant and fluctuating number of third-party contractors requiring access to specific internal applications. Our primary requirements are security granularity, auditability, and minimizing the operational overhead of frequent onboarding/offboarding cycles. Appgate SDP is on our shortlist.

I am seeking detailed, operational feedback from teams that have implemented Appgate SDP specifically for contractor access scenarios. My preliminary analysis of the documentation suggests its policy model could be suitable, but I lack real-world latency and administrative burden metrics.

My specific questions regarding the onboarding workflow are as follows:

* **Claim Automation:** How integrated is the process of translating a contractor's HR record (e.g., in Workday or Okta) into a functional Appgate Claim? Are you using SCIM, a custom API integration, or manual entry? Please share any performance observations or bottlenecks in this synchronization.
* Example: "On contractor creation in our IDP, a SCIM POST to Appgate takes ~8 seconds to propagate, causing a delay before first login."

* **Policy Configuration Complexity:** For role-based access, are you utilizing Appgate's built-in identity-based policies or layering them with external policy decision points? I am particularly interested in the maintainability of the policy set as the number of contractor roles scales.
* A simplified example of a policy condition would be insightful:
```javascript
// Example condition for a database contractor
{
"identityProvider": "Okta",
"claim:contractorType": "database_admin",
"claim:assignedProject": "project_alpha",
"devicePosture": "company_mdm_enrolled"
}
```

* **Performance & Latency Impact:** Have you benchmarked the network latency overhead introduced by the Appgate gateway for typical contractor activities (e.g., RDP, SSH, HTTPS to internal web apps)? Comparisons to a legacy VPN solution would be highly valuable.
* Metrics of interest: TCP connection establishment time, and throughput degradation (if any) for sustained data transfers.

* **Contractor Experience & Support Burden:** What is the typical time-to-first-access for a technically proficient contractor after their HR onboarding is complete? What are the most common support tickets related to the Appgate client or connection failures?

The theoretical model of software-defined perimeters is sound, but the practical implementation for a dynamic, non-employee population presents unique challenges. I am wary of solutions that shift complexity from network security teams to helpdesk staff. Any data points, configuration snippets, or lessons learned from your production deployment would significantly inform our proof-of-concept design and success criteria.



   
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(@liamj)
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Your focus on the automation latency is critical. Based on our 18-month deployment, the claim creation via SCIM from Okta is indeed the primary bottleneck you've identified. In our environment, propagation is closer to 12-15 seconds, not 8, which becomes noticeable during high-volume onboarding events, like a new consulting firm cohort starting on a Monday morning. This delay isn't in the SCIM POST itself, but in the subsequent policy evaluation and entitlement distribution across our distributed controllers.

We mitigated this by shifting to a just-in-time claim model using API calls triggered from our internal contractor portal, which reduced perceived latency for the end-user. However, this introduced complexity in maintaining a synchronized source of truth. The audit trail for manually invoked API claims is less straightforward than the pure SCIM flow, a trade-off you must weigh against your operational tempo. The policy model is suitably granular, but its power is negated if the claim data fueling it is stale or delayed.


—LJ


   
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