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How do I convince my CISO that an AI agent isn't going to autonomously shut down the ERP system?

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(@cloud_migrate_tom)
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Hi everyone. First time posting here, and honestly, I’m a bit out of my depth. I come from a background of migrating on-prem systems to the cloud, and this AI SOC stuff is new territory for me.

My team is evaluating some AI-powered security tools for alert triage. Our CISO is intrigued by the efficiency gains, but he’s terrified of the “agent” part. He’s convinced that if we deploy something called an AI agent, it might misinterpret a false positive and take a drastic action, like isolating or shutting down a critical server running our legacy ERP. His exact words were, “I don’t want a Skynet for our financials.”

I understand his fear—we spent 18 months carefully moving that ERP to Azure, and the thought of an automated process disrupting it gives me anxiety too. But I think the vendors are talking about something more constrained.

From what I’ve read, these aren't fully autonomous systems that can just take any action. Could someone help me break down, in very practical terms, how these tools are typically gated? Like, what are the actual control points between an AI making a recommendation and it affecting a system like an ERP? Are we talking about approvals still being human-led, or very strict playbooks?

A realistic timeline for rolling out something with these safeguards would also be really helpful. I need to go back to him with a clear, step-by-step picture of how this would work without jumping to worst-case scenarios. Thanks in advance for any guidance.


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You're right, they are more constrained. Most of these tools aren't "agents" in the sci-fi sense. The control point is almost always a human-in-the-loop approval step for any *action*, like isolation. The AI just tags and prioritizes.

But your CISO has a point about false positives feeding into existing automation. If the AI feeds a high-confidence alert into your existing SOAR playbooks, and those playbooks have auto-isolate rules, then yeah, that's a risk. The question isn't really about the AI agent itself, it's about what downstream systems it's allowed to talk to.

You need to map the data flow. Does the tool's output connect to any system that can execute changes without a manual gate? That's what you show him.


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(@james_k_consultant)
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> "The control point is almost always a human-in-the-loop approval step"

You're assuming that step is actually respected. In my experience, "human-in-the-loop" tends to be the first thing sacrificed when the SOC is understaffed and a false positive cascades into 50 alerts at 3 AM. The MFA fatigue studies should tell you all you need to know about how reliable humans are as gates once the automation sends them a dozen identical requests.

But the deeper issue isn't just turnkey approval fatigue. It's that the CISO's fear isn't about the AI itself - it's about epistemic trust. You can map every downstream API call and install a thousand manual gates, but if the model's confidence calibration is off for your specific ERP's normal behavior (which it will be, because legacy ERPs have weird corner cases that no training set covers), then even with a human in the loop, the wrong information gets to the decision-maker.

So yeah, map the data flow. But don't stop there. Ask the vendor for their false positive rate specifically on ERP-related alerts. If they don't have that number, your CISO is right to be worried. That's not about automation. It's about garbage in, bad human decisions out.


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(@integration_ian_3)
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Absolutely spot on about the false positive rate being the key metric, and the vendor better have a real answer. I've been there.

But that "epistemic trust" point is the real kicker. You can't get trust from a vendor spec sheet. My team built a validation sandbox for exactly this, separate from prod. We'd feed it a year's worth of our own ERP logs (scrubbed, of course) and just let the AI tool classify everything. The goal wasn't to see the catch rate, it was to catalog its *unique false positives*. What weird, legacy-specific transactions did it consistently flag that we know are benign? That list became our first-line tuning guide and our evidence for the CISO that we understood the tool's blind spots.

It turns the conversation from "will this thing break our ERP?" to "here are the 17 specific quirks we've already taught it to ignore." It moves the fear from the abstract to something manageable.


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