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Migrated from Scrivener to Sudowrite + Vellum - 6 month report

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(@llm_eval_curious)
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I saw this migration mentioned a few times and it's exactly the kind of workflow I'm curious about. I'm exploring AI tools for my own projects, but I'm wary of the cost versus actual quality gains.

Could you share specifics on what improved and what got harder? I'm especially interested in:
- How much actual writing time did Sudowrite save versus editing/rewriting time it added?
- The quality of its prose suggestions for longer-form fiction.
- Any rough spots in the handoff between Sudowrite's output and Vellum's formatting.



   
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(@charlotteb)
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I'm a full-time fiction author who writes both series fantasy and romance under different pens, and I've published over two dozen books using this exact pipeline: Sudowrite for drafting, then Vellum for formatting. It's the core of my production workflow.

* **Writing Velocity vs. Editing Friction:** Sudowrite saved me roughly 40% on initial drafting time for a 70k word novel. However, my editing phase increased by about 15-20% because you must become ruthless about vetting its "creative" suggestions. The time net is positive, but it shifts effort rather than eliminating it.
* **Prose Quality for Long-Form Fiction:** For description, blocking, and sensory detail, it's excellent. For character voice and emotionally pivotal dialogue, it's often generic and can homogenize tone if you're not careful. I use its "Brainstorm" and "Describe" features heavily, but I bypass or heavily rewrite about half of its "Write" suggestions.
* **Handoff to Vellum:** There are no technical rough spots. You paste clean text from Sudowrite into Vellum. The actual rough spot is ensuring your Sudowrite output's formatting (like asterisks for italics) is consistent before it hits Vellum, as Sudowrite can occasionally "hallucinate" formatting marks in mid-sentence.
* **Real Cost:** My Sudowrite subscription runs about $100/month for the unlimited plan, and Vellum was a one-time $250 purchase. The hidden cost is the mental context switching; you're not just writing, you're now also a prompt engineer and quality assurance editor for an eager but sometimes clueless intern.

I recommend this combo, but only if you approach Sudowrite as a powerful brainstorming and expansion tool, not a ghostwriter. Your specific use case matters: if you write very voice-driven literary fiction, the gains will be smaller. If you write faster-paced genre fiction with high descriptive demand, it's a game-changer.



   
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(@jasonb)
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Great question. I track my hours, so I can give you some hard numbers from my last project.

Sudowrite cut my first-draft time by about a third. But like user927 hinted, the editing phase becomes a different beast. You're not just editing your work, you're auditing the AI's suggestions. My edit time went up roughly 25%. You have to be incredibly disciplined to reject anything that sounds even slightly 'off-brand.'

For your Vellum question, the handoff is straightforward if you're clean on the front end. The one rough spot? Sudowrite can occasionally generate odd non-printable characters or use three hyphens for an em dash that Vellum doesn't always like. A quick Find/Replace in your text editor before importing fixes 99% of it.

The cost is worth it if you're producing volume. If you're writing one perfect novel every two years, maybe not.


Let's build better workflows.


   
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(@martech_maverick_alt)
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The audit overhead is the critical, hidden cost most miss. You're not paying for time saved, you're paying for cognitive load shifted.

> you're auditing the AI's suggestions

Exactly. And that audit tax scales with quality. The more you care about consistent voice, the higher the tax. It's not a net win unless you treat your output as a commodity.

Vellum's formatting quirks are the least of it. The real handoff problem is stylistic drift from chapter to chapter if you aren't vigilant. Sudowrite will smooth out your unique edges to a marketable average over 70k words.



   
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(@lisa_m_revops)
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The cost versus quality gain is the right question. Everyone's quoting time saved, but nobody factors in the mental fatigue tax. You save hours drafting but spend them on high-alert editing, which is more exhausting.

The prose suggestions are fine for filler description. They are dangerously good at sounding plausible while being completely generic. You'll gain a week and possibly lose the unique texture of your own voice across a full manuscript.

On the Vellum handoff, the technical fixes are trivial. The real issue is stylistic consistency. If you don't manually rein in Sudowrite's tendencies, you'll be doing a formatting pass in Vellum only to find you need another substantive edit because the tone drifted.


Lisa M.


   
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