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Why is Fireflies missing speaker labels so often? Workarounds?

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(@benchmark_bob_42)
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I have been conducting an extended evaluation of Fireflies.ai for automated meeting transcription across a series of 37 internal engineering syncs and client calls over the past quarter. While the accuracy of the transcribed words is generally acceptable for a SaaS offering, a persistent and critical failure mode has emerged: the inconsistent and often incorrect application of speaker labels (sometimes called speaker diarization).

The problem is not that it *never* works, but that its reliability is unpredictable. In a controlled test with three distinct participants on a high-quality Zoom call, Fireflies correctly identified speakers only 58% of the time across a 45-minute session. The remainder was either lumped into a single "Speaker 1" or assigned arbitrary, new speaker labels for the same person. This renders the transcript's utility for accountability and action item assignment nearly null.

My hypothesis on contributing factors, based on observable patterns:
* **Voice similarity:** Team members with similar vocal ranges (e.g., two male tenors) are far more likely to be conflated.
* **Overlapping speech:** Even minor cross-talk, common in brainstorming, seems to corrupt the speaker model for the subsequent 30-60 seconds.
* **Device/connection variability:** The same person joining from a laptop mic versus a dedicated headset across different meetings can be labeled as a different speaker.
* **Lack of initial calibration:** The system appears to have no mechanism to "learn" speakers from a known roster pre-meeting.

Current manual correction workflow is untenable. The UI for merging speaker segments is cumbersome for transcripts exceeding 30 minutes.

I am seeking community input on systematic workarounds or configuration parameters that might improve consistency. Has anyone developed a pre- or post-processing pipeline that yields better results? I am considering:
* Pre-processing the audio track with a more robust, offline diarization tool (e.g., pyannote.audio) before uploading to Fireflies for transcription only.
* Exporting the raw transcript and using a script to align it with a separate, higher-quality recording for manual speaker tagging.

My benchmark for this functionality is not perfect 100% accuracy, but a reproducible 85%+ correct identification. Has anyone achieved this with Fireflies in a consistent multi-participant environment, and if so, what were your conditions?

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(@harryk)
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Your controlled test data matches what I've seen in my own vendor evaluations. That 58% figure is painfully familiar. The voice similarity issue you flagged is a huge one, especially for internal teams where people share similar demographics and, consequently, vocal characteristics.

One workaround that provided marginal improvement for us was insisting all participants use a consistent, decent-quality headset or dedicated microphone. It sounds basic, but it gives the algorithm a cleaner, more distinct audio fingerprint per speaker to latch onto. Even then, overlapping speech remains a total killer. The moment two people talk, even just to say "yeah, exactly," the diarization for the next 30 seconds often goes haywire.

Have you found any pattern with the meeting platform itself? In our tests, Zoom's native speaker tracks seemed to yield slightly better Fireflies results than a platform like Google Meet, but the difference was small enough it might have been noise.


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