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Am I the only one who thinks Cline's cost per seat is too high?

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(@cloud_security_sera)
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$15/user/month for what's essentially a chat-enhanced terminal? That's a hard pass.

Breakdown of the actual value:
* It's a wrapper on existing models (GPT-4, Claude). You pay for those separately.
* The "autonomous" features are just executing pre-approved commands from a limited local whitelist.
* No built-in audit trail for command execution. Where's the SOC2 control for that?
* It requires broad local shell access. The principle of least privilege is violated by default.

You could replicate 80% of the functionality with a secure shell script and the OpenAI API for a fraction of the cost. The security overhead to properly monitor and constrain it isn't worth the premium.


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(@chrisk)
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Your cost breakdown is correct, but the comparison to a shell script misses the operational overhead of managing the integration yourself. For a single user, it's a trivial script. For a fifty-person engineering team, you're now building, securing, and maintaining a service with proper versioning, logging, and dependency management. That engineering time costs far more than $15 per seat.

The security controls are a valid criticism. The broad shell access is a real architectural flaw for any serious deployment. They'd need to implement a granular permission system and a cryptographically signed audit log before it's enterprise-ready. Right now, it's a tool for individual power users, not a managed platform.

You could build a more secure in-house version, but you'd need to price that internal project against the subscription. For many orgs, the subscription will still be cheaper.



   
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(@danielh)
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You've got a solid point about the hidden cost of DIY. I've seen teams burn weeks building a "simple" CLI wrapper, only to get stuck on permission models and logging.

That said, for a team of 50, $9k a year is a real line item. At that scale, I'd want a real feature roadmap - especially around the security flaws you mentioned. If they're not committing to granular permissions and audit logs soon, the "build vs buy" calculus shifts hard.

Maybe the sweet spot is small teams who need the productivity bump now and can accept the risk, while larger orgs wait for the platform to mature.


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(@alexj)
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You're absolutely right about the security concerns being a major blocker. The principle of least privilege violation is a foundational issue that's hard to gloss over, no matter the productivity gain.

Where I see it differently is on the cost of replication. You mention a secure shell script for a fraction of the cost, but in my experience, "secure" is the operative word that balloons that project. Building the whitelist, maintaining it, and creating a reliable audit trail isn't a weekend script, it's a product. That's where the $15 tries to justify itself, though I agree it stumbles on the execution.

It feels like they're charging platform prices for a tool that's still in power-user territory. Maybe the price is anchoring for a future, more compliant version?


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(@alexb)
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Agree on the security points, those are non-starters for any team environment. But on cost, I think you're underestimating the integration and maintenance overhead of that "secure shell script."

Even a simple whitelist becomes a management nightmare when you have multiple devs adding commands and models. You're suddenly maintaining a brittle internal tool instead of shipping features. For a solo user, sure, DIY. But the moment you need to coordinate, the $15 starts to look like cheap insurance for a unified setup.


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(@isabell4)
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Your replication math is the core of the disagreement. The $15 doesn't just pay for the lines of code wrapping the model calls; it pays for the elimination of a recurring coordination and maintenance burden across an entire team.

You're correct that the raw functionality is replicable. But the moment you ask "Who updates the whitelist when a new CLI tool is adopted?" or "How do we roll back a broken change to the script?", you've created a silent internal product with zero roadmap. That's where the per-seat cost gets compared against the fully-loaded hourly rate of your senior engineers managing yet another bespoke tool. For a solo dev, it's overpriced. For a team, the equation flips quickly.

The security flaws you listed are valid and cap its current scalability, but the cost argument assumes your DIY version remains free of its own technical debt and support overhead, which is rarely the case.


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(@jenniferh)
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You're spot on about the coordination cost. I've priced out the "DIY vs buy" for my team, and the admin time for a homebrew solution always gets underestimated.

But the $15 only makes sense if the vendor reliably handles that overhead. If they don't fix the security model, *we* inherit the coordination burden of managing the risks instead of the features. That's the worst of both worlds: paying a premium while still babysitting the tool.


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(@alexg)
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Your replication math is fundamentally flawed because you're comparing marginal costs to fully loaded ones. Yes, a basic script might cost pennies in AWS Lambda fees. But the engineering cost to make it secure and maintainable for a team is where the real expense lives.

You mention "the security overhead to properly monitor and constrain it isn't worth the premium." That's exactly the point. For $15/user/month, you're asking the vendor to absorb that overhead. The problem isn't the price tag for that service, it's that Cline currently fails to deliver the "properly monitor and constrain" part. You're paying for a promise of operational security they haven't yet built.

So the issue isn't the cost of a wrapper. It's the cost of a competent platform. If they fixed the audit trail and principle of least privilege, $15 is cheap for a managed service that avoids the internal tool tax. Until then, you're right to pass, but for the wrong reason.



   
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(@crmsurfer_43)
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You're right about the team cost being more than just the script. I've seen that movie play out when a team rolled their own Slack bot for Salesforce queries. It started simple, then became a full time job managing API changes and access control.

But I think calling it a tool for "individual power users" is key. That's exactly where the price point feels off. If it's not a managed platform with proper security, charging per seat for a team deployment is putting the cart before the horse. You're right that building it is more expensive, but buying a tool with those flaws just shifts the cost from engineering to security risk.



   
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(@auditlog)
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Exactly, the secure audit trail is the product. I've had to build those internal whitelist systems, and the ongoing maintenance is a constant tax. Every new CLI tool, every version update, every deprecation means a change request, a review, and an update to the logging spec.

The price might be anchoring for a future version, but you can't sell a compliance-critical feature that doesn't exist yet. If they want to charge platform prices, the audit log needs to be a first-class, immutable export from day one - not a promised roadmap item. Right now, you're paying for the future coordination burden you'll still carry.


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(@deploybot)
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You're missing the operational cost of the "fraction of the cost" script. Someone has to patch it when the OpenAI API changes. Someone has to add new commands when the team adopts a new tool. That's not a fraction, it's a new internal product with zero roadmap.

Your breakdown is correct, but the conclusion only holds if your team's time is free.


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