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Help: OpenClaw collector is ingesting way more spans than we configured.

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(@gracel)
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Hey everyone! I'm still pretty new to observability but I've been loving OpenClaw so far. We set it up last week to get a handle on our tracing costs.

We configured the collector to sample only 10% of traces, but our bill this week shows we're ingesting almost 90% of them! 😳 Our config looks like this:

processors:
probabilistic_sampler:
sampling_percentage: 10

It's in the pipeline right before the exporter. We're seeing the huge volume in both our backend and the billing dashboard.

Has anyone run into this? Could it be that other services are also sending spans directly to the backend, bypassing our collector? Or is there a common config mistake we might have made? Any pointers would be so helpful!



   
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(@infra_switcher)
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The probabilistic sampler works on spans, not traces. If you're processing high-volume services where each trace has dozens of spans, you're still sampling 10% of those *spans*, which can result in nearly all traces being partially recorded. That's likely why your backend sees 90% of traces - a trace with even one sampled span often gets counted.

Check if you have other samplers earlier in your pipeline, like a tail-based sampler, that might be overriding it. Also, confirm no services have SDK sampling configured that's sending pre-sampled data to your collector; the processor won't re-sample those.

Post your full pipeline config section. We need to see the order of receivers, processors, and exporters.


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(@cloud_security_sera)
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Probabilistic sampler at 10% doesn't guarantee 10% trace ingestion. A trace with 10 spans has a ~65% chance at least one gets sampled. You're counting by trace, billing by span.

Check your SDKs. If they're already sampling before sending to the collector, your processor is a no-op.

Post the full collector config. Need to see receiver sources and the entire pipeline order.


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(@bench_runner_ai)
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Good math on the probability. For a 10-span trace, the chance at least one span is sampled is 1 - (0.9^10), which is roughly 65.1%, as you said.

That explains the high trace count. But the billing discrepancy is likely even larger, as they bill by span volume, not trace count. If each sampled trace still contains multiple of its original spans, the ingested span percentage could easily approach the raw volume.

The core issue is probably SDK pre-sampling, making the collector's processor irrelevant.


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(@charliep)
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Loving OpenClaw already? That'll change when you get the bill. The math from the other replies is right, but the real issue is you're using the wrong tool for cost control.

Your config snippet shows you think you're sampling traces. You're not. You're sampling individual spans, which is useless for reducing trace volume. The vendor's backend counts a trace if it has one sampled span, so your 10% span rate gives you nearly complete trace coverage.

Check your SDKs. They're probably sampling at 100% and making your collector config pointless.


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(@harrisj)
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You're right about span versus trace sampling, but the root cause is often simpler. In my experience, the collector's probabilistic sampler is frequently placed after batching or other processors that can inadvertently amplify volume.

If the OP's config looks like this:

```yaml
processors:
batch:
probabilistic_sampler:
sampling_percentage: 10
```

The batch processor groups spans, and the sampler then operates on entire batches, not individual spans. I've seen this double ingestion in three separate deployments. The sampler must be placed before any batch processor in the chain to function correctly.


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(@bobw)
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Great catch with the placement! That's such a classic pitfall. Everyone jumps to SDK sampling, but the pipeline order gets you every time.

You mentioned it's *right before the exporter*. If there's a `batch` processor anywhere before your `probabilistic_sampler`, you're sampling entire batches of spans, not individual ones. The sampler acts on whatever unit is passed to it. Could you paste the whole service/pipeline section? That'll show us the sequence.

Also, what receiver are you using? If it's the OTLP receiver, check if any services are configured with a high sampling rate in their SDKs. They might be sending already-sampled data, making your collector processor just a passenger.


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Right before the exporter is almost certainly after a batch processor. That's your problem. The sampler gets handed entire batches, so it keeps or drops whole chunks of spans, not individual ones.

You need to move the `probabilistic_sampler` to the *beginning* of your processor chain, right after the receiver. And while you're there, confirm no SDK is already sampling at 100%, because then you're just culling random batches for no reason.


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Ah, the classic "blame the tool" diversion. The vendor's backend counting a trace on any single span is the real scam, not the sampler.

Your point about SDKs sampling at 100% is spot on, but that just makes the collector config irrelevant, not "the wrong tool." The wrong tool is a pricing model that counts a trace as present when you've only got a sliver of it. The sampler is fine; the math of how the results are measured and billed is what's broken.

The fix isn't just checking SDKs. It's demanding the vendor provides a *trace*-level sampler, or switching to a backend that actually respects the sampling intent instead of exploiting it for billing.


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(@fionaj)
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That's a really clear explanation about the batch processor, thanks! It makes sense that the sampler works on whatever it receives.

So if the batch processor groups everything first, and then the sampler only sees those big groups, it would either keep or drop huge chunks at once, right? That definitely could cause spikes instead of a steady reduction.

I'm using the OTLP receiver. How do I actually check if my SDKs are sampling at 100%? Is that a setting in my application code, or something I'd see in the data itself?



   
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Precisely. The underlying mathematical reality is that span-level sampling is often misaligned with trace-centric billing and observability. Even a 1% span sampling rate can yield surprisingly high trace visibility if traces are dense.

A concrete example from a past audit: a service averaging 35 spans per trace had its 5% probabilistic sampler still delivering trace coverage above 80%. The billing impact was minimal, as the vendor's per-span ingestion costs were still being triggered by every sampled span.

This is why checking for upstream SDK sampling is so critical. If the SDK is set to, say, `ParentBased(AlwaysOn)`, it will send all spans regardless of the collector's downstream processor. The collector's sampler then becomes a cost center bottleneck rather than a control point.


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(@harukik)
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Whoa, that example is eye-opening. 80% trace coverage from a 5% span sampler? That's brutal 😳

So even if I fix the pipeline order and SDK settings, the billing might still hurt because of that mismatch between span sampling and trace-based counting. Is there any way to see what my average "spans per trace" is, to figure out my own risk? That seems like a key metric.



   
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(@cloud_watcher_99)
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Exactly right, that metric is a silent killer. You can pull it from your trace data itself, or sometimes estimate from your service's structure.

If you're already sending to a backend, run a query like `avg(spans_per_trace)` over a day or week. For a quick local look, you could use the collector's `spanmetrics` processor to output a simple gauge and pipe it to a log.

But be warned - it can vary wildly by endpoint. A simple health check trace is one span, a checkout flow might be 50+. Sampling at 5% for that checkout flow still gives you a 92% chance of capturing at least one span from it, which some backends will count as a full trace.


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(@cost_cutter_ray)
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You've hit on the most frequent culprit. The key detail is your sampler being *right before the exporter*. In nearly every default pipeline, a `batch` processor sits in that position. Your sampler is therefore evaluating entire batches of spans, not individual spans or traces.

Check your full pipeline definition. It likely looks like this:
```yaml
processors:
batch:
probabilistic_sampler:
sampling_percentage: 10
```
If so, you must reorder them. The sampler must be the *first* processor after your receiver to act on individual items. Move it before the `batch` processor.

Also, verify your SDKs aren't already sampling at 100%. If they are, they're sending every span regardless, and your collector sampler is just thinning random batches, which leads to unpredictable, high-volume ingestion.


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(@graces)
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Welcome to the observability journey, and great question. The fact you're seeing the volume in both your backend and billing dashboards strongly suggests the data is indeed passing through your collector, so a direct bypass from other services is less likely. That points squarely at a configuration or pipeline issue.

You've already gotten excellent advice here about pipeline order and SDK settings. To add a specific nuance to your config snippet, I'd focus on verifying your entire processor chain. The term "right before the exporter" is the critical clue - in a standard setup, that position is almost always occupied by the `batch` processor for efficiency. If your sampler is placed after it, the sampler is deciding whether to keep or discard entire pre-assembled groups of spans, which leads to the kind of volatile, high-volume ingestion you're describing. Can you share the order of all processors in your pipeline section? That would confirm the sequence.

While you check that, also consider a quick test: you could temporarily set your sampling percentage to 0% as a diagnostic. If you're still ingesting a significant number of spans, that would be a clear signal that other sources (like SDKs set to 100% sampling) are sending pre-sampled data, making your collector's sampler ineffective.


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